[00:00:00] Speaker A: Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to another segment of Complete wellness with Cindy, the busy woman's cheerleader. This is the channel where women from all walks of life can stop by, get tools and resources to help them thrive. 360 in mind, body, spirit and finances. I invite you to stay connected, subscribe to this channel and visit me
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Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to another segment of Complete wellness with Cindy, the busy woman's cheerleader. This is the channel where women from all walks of life can stop by, get tools and resources to help them thrive. 360 in mind, body, spirit and finances. I invite you to stay connected, subscribe to this channel and visit me
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Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to another segment of complete wellness with Cindy, the busy woman's cheerleader. This is the channel where women from all walks of life can stop by, get tools and resources to help them thrive. 360 in mind, body, spirit and finances. I invite you to stay connected, subscribe to this channel and visit me
[email protected] now for today's segment.
Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to another segment of complete wellness with Cindy, the busy woman's cheerleader. This is the channel where women from all walks of life can stop by, get tools and resources to help them thrive. 360 in mind, body, spirit and finances. I invite you to stay connected, subscribe to this channel and visit me
[email protected] now for today's segment, foreign people and welcome to another segment of complete wellness with Cindy, the busy woman's cheerleader. This is the channel where women from all walks of life can stop by, get tools and resources to help them thrive. 360 in mind, body, spirit and finances. I invite you to connect it.
[00:02:02] Speaker B: Hello, beautiful people. This is Cindy, the busy woman's cheerleader and welcome to another segment of Complete wellness with Cindy. All right, we've got an ex. I'm excited because our names are similar.
Okay, we just have different last names. But I'm so super excited about our guest today. But first,
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[00:03:43] Speaker B: And our power quote for today is no woman should be made to fear that she is not enough. And that comes from Samantha Shannon. I love that. I love that. You'll be actually surprised how many people feel like they're not enough. Well, help me welcome our guest for today. Her name is Cindy Costley. She's a speaker, trainer and the creator of ebdt. I'll let her explain that. A groundbreaking system that helps people heal from trauma, stress and disregulation at the C cellular level. That's good.
After living more than three decades with a rare disorder caused by severe life altering allergic reactions, Cindy was able to turn her life around through her system. And we're going to let her explain that to us.
Welcome, Cindy.
[00:04:31] Speaker D: Thank you so much, Cindy. Lovely. It's a pleasure to be here. Thank you.
[00:04:35] Speaker B: Thank you. So listen, tell us about the system. I didn't want to butcher the name. The electromagnet body desensitization technique. Tell us about that. And tell us about your journey. How did you get to the point where you're now sharing this groundbreaking system with others to help them heal their traumas and, and diseases?
[00:04:57] Speaker D: Well, I want to just start by saying this is truly not my system. This is God's system.
[00:05:02] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:05:03] Speaker D: Brought to me told through my own healing journey. As I laid in bed healing, I was told, do this now, do this now, do this now, do this. And now between my own intelligence, my own confidence, my own healing journey and God, we have this incredibly powerful tool called ebdt, which is electromagnetic body desensitization technique.
[00:05:26] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:05:27] Speaker D: And I want to, I will go back and start with kind of my story a little bit because I think it's important.
Evolution to EBDT.
[00:05:35] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:05:36] Speaker D: When I was 15 years old, I suddenly became allergic to the world. And I mean everything. So all animal life, most plant life, most chemicals, most foods, it manifested in the form of rashes all over My body so head to toe, just severe rashes, incredible itching.
My parents, we tried everything. I tried everything Western and Eastern for 34 years, and nothing ever worked more than temporarily right. So Western medicine gave me some temporary relief, but never any resolution.
Eastern practices gave me, again, some temporary relief and some ideas into what was going on, but nothing that ever lasted.
And then at age 48, my body, my family and I, we went water skiing. So we did something that we love to do. It's our, our, our like time together, the thing that we love most and that was going to the lake and just being together as a family. And I, within about two hours of being in the water. I had never been to this lake before. I was taken to the hospital and I had a massive anaphylactic reaction of the skin from something in the water.
And that was it. That was the beginning of my old life. I guess I could say I used. I used to think it was the beginning of the end of my life, but it was really the beginning of the new me. And it's because my body had been shouting at me for so many years and I didn't know how to listen to what it was saying. And it finally just gave up. And my doctors were saying I had the. The liver of an end stage alcoholic.
I didn't drink my. I was very, very allergic to alcohol. So I, you know, that just wasn't possible.
[00:07:16] Speaker B: Right, right.
[00:07:18] Speaker D: So eight months in, I told my husband, my soul wants to dance and it's going to dance here on this earth or somewhere else, that it was so tired of being in this body.
My, my world had shrunk smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller where we had moved to the beach and got rid of all the carpet in our house and all the drapery, and he had to take his clothes off before coming into the house. And it was just this, this process over years that we didn't even see happening because it was happening so slowly. But we literally were just shrinking my life to accommodate what my body was trying to tell me.
[00:07:53] Speaker B: Right.
[00:07:53] Speaker D: So fast forward, I get these two appointments. My niece says, cindy, you need to go see this healer. And another friend says, cindy, when you have something as rare as you, you need to see somebody, you need to see a doctor House.
So I. It took me six months to see, to get appointments to these two amazing people.
And they were one day apart from each other. So within one, two days, I had a healer. Tell me, Cindy, this, tell me what happened to you at age 14.
And I had never spoken A word about anything that happened to me at that time for all those years. And I told her something that happened to me at 15, and she said, no, tell me what happened to you at 14. And I started bawling because it had never come out of my body.
And she goes, this is your body screaming at you. You're not allergic. Your body's been trying to tell you something all these years.
So I leave that appointment. I'm just kind of perplexed by it all. Hadn't had any experience with healers up till that point, Right. Although I will say I had had rashes all over my body at the time, because I was on an antibiotic from a virus, from getting bronchitis. And the next day, all those rashes were gone. So I was like, there's a little something going on here. Right, right, right, right. God, what are you trying to show me here? The next day, I see a functional medicine doctor, Harvard, did his residency at Stanford, but then went to India and studied ayurvedic medicine for two years. And so the first thing he says to me is, tell me about your childhood traumas.
So here I. And I was pushing, I need to know, do I have mass lactivation? Do I. Do I need a bone marrow biopsy? And he's like, why do we need to name it? Why don't we just heal it? And I was like, whoa, I like you, you know?
And so that was the beginning of me opening my eyes to. There was so much more than I ever knew. And one spiritually, because my thought said, okay, if. If God can allow her to do that for people, why can't I do that to myself? Right? Why was she able to get rid of my rashes? And I can't? So I just started being inquisitive. And then the functional doctor, like, for him to be so experienced and say, this is your traumas, I had to look at that.
So I embarked down this journey of desensitization, where I desensitized my body, my traumas, one layer at a time, one step at a time. And a couple years in, I had been doing really well. I was thriving again. I was traveling, I was out of the house. And then my body revealed another layer that I didn't know about at age 6. So I had a very severe trauma at age 6 that had been suppressed through all of the healing of this, which took about five years to heal all the traumas and to do this desensitization process, God was speaking to me and sharing that I will be helping people with this. And I couldn't even fathom it because I was just the one being healed. Right. I was just the one, like, getting the help.
[00:10:53] Speaker B: The vessel.
[00:10:54] Speaker D: Yes, exactly. And I.
I listened to one of your podcasts, and she was saying that she was given the name I. I literally woke up in the middle of the night. I said, electromagnetic body desensitization technique. And my husband's like, what? And I'm like, write it down. Electromagnetic body desensitization technique. And so. And then God started showing me step by step what it is. And. And basically what I've learned through my research and through my own healing journey is that we.
We create, like, trauma manifests through us, stress manifests through us. Patterns.
[00:11:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:31] Speaker D: And so what EBDT does is. Is it re. It reminds our body how to heal. It doesn't heal us.
Right. God, I call it restore the design. Because we are designed to, you know, to heal in a natural way. We are designed to be able to reverse some of the effects that I call, you know, we talk about woo woo.
And for me, woo woo is wh. It's worldly hangups. And it's the worldly hangups that really get us down. Right. We have a trauma, our body goes into fight and flight. It does exactly what it's supposed to do. But then if we don't heal that trauma, if we bypass it or we suppress it because it's too much, which is what happened to me at age 6, our body holds onto it and it creates these pathways that could be physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, energetic, whatever it is. These stories start to show up in our life, holding us back from our truth.
And so all EBDT does is bring us back to our truth, remind our body, oh, we don't need to be in survival mode over this event anymore.
We can actually release this event now and let it go.
So that's a long story, but that's the.
[00:12:45] Speaker B: Well, no, that's awesome. I mean, you gave us enough insight to kind of travel that with you. It's amazing because.
Well, first of all, congratulations.
[00:12:54] Speaker D: Thank you.
[00:12:54] Speaker B: And. And I say that, number one, for your. Your healing and your restoration, and number two, the fact that you listened. And I should say, first and foremost, one of my biggest questions when I was sent your information was, does she really think science did all of that? I've got to talk to her.
I want to know, like, the details. Surely she doesn't think science did all of that because you never made mention of the opposite side and the intertwining. With God's instructions. But you're mentioning it now, and it's like you just completely slashed a whole list of questions because it was like, surely, listen, Cindy doesn't think science had something to do with the revelation of what she needed to have full body restoration and live her. Have her body work at peace.
And so to. To hear that, you know, that all good and perfect gifts come from God and that he did speak to you, to let, you know, even though it's very scientific, you know, we. We serve one that is sovereign and just omnipresent, just all over the place, knows how to do everything perfectly, you know, and. And just at the thought of it, because I'm really big on holistic health and healing, you know, and so for. For me to hear from you versus read from you, I'm just. I'm so. Congratulations. I am so happy for you. So. So please. A lot of times people, I want to say, diminish or downplay healing.
They diminish it because it. Sometimes it's kind of cliche, you know, to hear about healing, to hear about being whole. All of these things. It's like, cliche. And they think healing a lot of times only has something to do with somebody that's perhaps dealing with cancer or lupus or, you know, syphilis or, you know, some type of major, you know, kidney disease or bone marrow issue. And while those are large issues, these. There are some issues you have to figure things out from the root more so than the fruit that it bears.
You know, you were having the fruit of, you know, allergic reaction to every single solitary thing. I understand that because I have allergies. You know, it's. And I'm thankful it's under control. But then there's some areas that I travel to that will spark it all year round. And sometimes it'll just be the spring bud of the flowers, you know, But I'm allergic to cats, but cats love me.
Imagine that, you know, and it's like, please stay away. Please stay away. I don't want you to flare up my allergies. Please stay away. But a lot of things that people deal with illnesses, you know, just like when you. You hear the word disease, if you really were to research it, you know, dis was a small g God, a deity, you know, so when you look at all the things that that small God g deity was a part of, it was disruptive disease, dis disorder, dis.
All of these things start with a problem where the opposite of disease is ease.
You know, you See what I'm saying? I could go on and on with that list, but part of. Part of the issue, and I'm going to speak a little bit about me in just a second with what I tell my clients. Part of the issue. A lot of times people are looking for a big something to be the root cause or the solution.
A big, you know, like blow. Your mind always about to blow volcanoes and. And ships and all that. Sometimes it's that small. Normally it's that small still voice, which. With a resource or a idea or a trap that you just would have normally passed by had you not been attuned. You know, sometimes people are trying to deal with the fruit of the issue instead of the root of the issue.
So your root of your issue was trauma. But all this time you're seeking out the big box pharmaceuticals, which is normal whenever something's going on, let's go to the doctor.
You know, you're seeking after help and they couldn't help you. And he ended up turning you right back to hear him with a solution that not only helped you, but for those who come after you. One thing that I learned about healing, healing in some areas that I didn't know I needed healing in. Because sometimes you carry things. You mentioned about 6 and 14 and 15. Sometimes you carry things or disease of the mind or disease of actions, and we block them out. I. Preaching to the choir. I've done that for years. That was my coping mechanism.
I would block things out because I could not afford to have, like, a total breakdown. I had to have, like a little mini breakdown. Dry my tears, square my shoulders, and keep it moving, you know. So a lot of times whenever we're seeking out help and we can't get answers, if you're not careful, you'll think it's something psychologically wrong with you. But I congratulate you because you listen and I congratulate you because you were able to heal in some areas that you didn't know that you needed healing. Healing is painful, but it is so necessary. I learned with my own healing journey. You know, I would say a good bit is done, but then, you know, you still have some things that, you know, you're working on. But. But I would say that even with my own healing journey, I realized that the things that I said at my age, you know, I'll just die with it. I'm not angry with anybody. I love and forgive everybody. I don't have to have closure and go back and, you know, turn over tombstones and. And why did you do this? And why did this happen? Why? I didn't need all of that. I didn't even feel like I needed resolved. But what I heard in that small still voice was that when I questioned why was this particular level, at this particular stage in my life necessary, that small still voice let me know that it was not so much as about me, as who was going to cross my path that needed to hear how I made it through, how I got past it. And a lot of times, Cindy, and I believe you can attest and understand this, when you said there were some things that you vowed never to speak on.
And here it is. Someone's asking you what happened at 14, what happened at 6. Some things are so traumatizing until the. The body does block it out.
Some things are so traumatizing that when we remember, we work not to remember.
[00:20:03] Speaker D: Yes, our bodies do it to protect us on purpose.
[00:20:06] Speaker B: It does it to protect us. But a lot of times is eating us from the inside out.
It's eating us, you know, just like unforgiveness, it eats from the inside out.
You may think you've got it covered. And you know, sometimes people hate for no reason. Sometimes people are envious for no reason. Sometimes people treat people bad for no reason. It's just like a beautiful person that has an ugly attitude and that makes them ugly.
It's just like an apple that is beautiful on the outside, but it has a rotten core, you see?
[00:20:44] Speaker D: I do. And I, I. Oh, go ahead.
[00:20:47] Speaker B: No, you're fine.
[00:20:48] Speaker D: Okay. I totally see what you're saying. And I, I want to say, and, and that the way, the way I've learned and what I've seen is it's the, these patterns that protect us. So traumas and stress becomes a biological event before a mental event.
[00:21:05] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:21:05] Speaker D: Right. The moment we're involved in a trauma or a heavy or a big stressor, our body feels it before our mind can think about it, right? So it starts to change us on a cellular level. And everything that. This is where the science comes in. Everything that we're meant to do that God designed our bodies to do, which is put us in that fight and flight, activate our sympathetic nervous system, release that cortisol, right? All the things that it's meant to do in that moment works perfectly. And then the challenge is then, because we don't heal it, because we don't deal with it, because we do say, oh, this is too painful. I'm going to stop. I'm not going to think about this or talk about this, our Body creates patterns of behavior. So when you say like some people are, you know, like rude or they're like, they're these beautiful souls on the outside, I mean on the inside. But then on the outside they're showing up. Oftentimes what I see is these are their protective measures.
These are their way of trying to protect them because, to keep them safe because they've been hurt so bad before. You know, I'm dealing this with my own family right now and it's so hard. My mother in law got put in a home and half the family thinks it's great and half the family thinks it's the worst decision for her. And it is causing from the most beautiful people in the world, the most chaos I've ever seen.
[00:22:26] Speaker B: But sometimes that's actually revealing the true self.
It's like it was there all along. It was just suppressed. It, it, you know, chaos and trauma seems to bring that out of people.
[00:22:38] Speaker D: It does, it does. And we, we get to look back at where does that stem from. Right. Like where do those again, that behavior. So I can see why everybody in the family is acting the way they are because of their own responses in life to things that have happened to them. It's just hard for most people to see that. But when we look at things like our own behavior and you know, we might look at something you mentioned at the beginning of the podcast. You know, women tend to not fully see, I forget the words you use, but like fully accept themselves, acknowledge themselves, feel their strength and their power. Right. A lot of that stems from things that have happened to them in their past where they have changed their, it has actually changed their identity of who they are and.
[00:23:25] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, exactly. You know, it's so funny. I, you know, as an executive coach, I deal with a lot of leaders.
Some of them are in ministries, some are, you know, executive C, some are founders, owners. Some of them are aspiring to be, you know, top tier entrepreneurs.
[00:23:45] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:23:46] Speaker B: But with our packages, I always, it's so funny. It never fails. There's always probably once a month, maybe twice that somebody will say, well, I just want to get that, you know, the way to grow and scale my business. I feel stuck or I feel like, you know, I've reached like a ceiling and I want to break through it, you know, and I was, I was told you were good, you know, as far as moving people past like the plateaus.
Yeah. And it never, oh my gosh, it's so funny because when I tell them, okay, let's, let's deal with mindsets and limiting beliefs. And it's like, oh, no, Ms. Cindy. You know, I just want to deal with the business side of it.
I want to deal with the business side of it. You know, I mean, I understand that's, you know, a part of it, but I think I'm fine in that area. You know, I just want the, the strategies how to grow this particular industry to that particular stage or what other, you know, valuable steps. And so my question a lot of times is like, well, who owns your business?
You know, and then, you know, they say, well, I do, I own my business. I said, okay, congratulations. And then I say, well, who's, you know, the decision maker for the business? Well, it's me. And then I have a board or I have a team or yada, yada, yada. I said, so if, you know, you started your business and this all, you know, was from your brain and now you're saying you've reached a plateau or you've gotten to a point where you feel stuck and don't know what to do to move past that, there's always silence. Yes, it's you.
And it's not a bad thing that it's you. Let's just talk about some things. Not to dig into somebody's personal business, even though sometimes we go there, you know. But let's talk about some things that I would say ran synchronize to you becoming stuck with your business. A lot of times you have to dismantle again the root cause more so than the fruit. The business is the fruit.
[00:25:47] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:25:48] Speaker B: But what led you, what was your journey? Right, to start the business, to start the practice, to start, you know, like what you're doing, what led you to do that? There was, there's always a cause and effect. So there was a path, there was something. And so if you've got to a point where you've reached a plateau or a ceiling or you feel stuck, there's something going on there.
There's something that needs to be addressed. There, there, there something that needs to be addressed. And again, it never fails. You know, it's like, oh my God, I'm just telling you all of my business. Well, you know, we have a non disclosure part of our agreement. And then, you know, I've been an accountant for almost 30 years. I'm used to holding people's information.
What I mean, it's like this is you're not telling me something I've not heard before on some level or scale.
But for you to be able to grow in the capacity that you desire to grow you. We need to dismantle limiting beliefs and let's realign, get off the hustle and grind type of wheel that hamster wheel and realign with your God given purpose and reason for starting this. As the world says your why, let's realign with that.
And a lot of times because, and, and this is a cross between, you know, science and spirituality.
These things are held in your gut, you know, that's why gut health and digestive health. Again, it seems like a cliche, but it's very important because these things that the body is holding it somewhere. And for ladies, our hormones, our hormonal changes, our cycles, our emotions, our stress. That's why sometimes we end up with a protruding stomach.
Because even though you may not be eating, you know, to, to a point of gluttony, your emotions spiritually and scientifically, they are held here in your core, you know, and a lot of times people don't know to release that because we're used to holding things in.
We're used to keeping these things to ourselves. But then sometimes you get a sister circle or your tribe or network and you're finding that this, this path that you've trotted, that seemed like it was just excruciating, like it was like punishment for you was eventually for you to help somebody else.
And so look at what you're doing with, with your practice now. You're able to take real world live experiences and transfer them on to make an impact and change and transform lives. I'm sure that thought, like you did initially, there was no cure.
[00:28:39] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And all those symptoms that you're talking about, what I found out is those are just the way a body gives a message. They're not even the message themselves, they're just the way that a body gives the message.
[00:28:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:54] Speaker D: You know, my allergic reactions, quote, unquote, were actually my body's way of saying that everything that was in my surrounding during age 6, 14 and 15, during those three traumas, everything I could see, everything I could smell, everything I could touch, everything I could that was in my digestive system became a threat to my entire biological system.
[00:29:15] Speaker B: Right.
[00:29:15] Speaker D: Because God works through us, through our physical body, but we separate our relationship with God in our body. We are trained to separate our relationship. Like God is something out there or in our heart, but not in our physiological body. Not.
[00:29:30] Speaker B: And forgetting that he created it.
[00:29:32] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:29:33] Speaker B: So who better to tell you how to deal with your body?
Yeah.
[00:29:37] Speaker D: And so each. And he also knows how to restore our body back to good health.
[00:29:41] Speaker B: Right.
[00:29:42] Speaker D: One of the last remedies that I gave myself was because I had healed all the trauma. I was not having allergic reactions. I was doing great. But then I would notice that with stacked stressors. So we had this family situation happening, and then I went for a walk with my dog, and another dog attacked her. And so between the heat and the stress of her being attacked and exercise, I had another mast cell reaction. So I went, oh, this is a layer I haven't yet healed. My body learned stack stressors are a threat. We're going to reveal itself through mast cell.
[00:30:22] Speaker B: Right.
[00:30:22] Speaker D: I gave myself a remedy, and now I. That's not an issue anymore.
[00:30:27] Speaker B: Wonderful.
[00:30:28] Speaker D: All we have to do is tell our body, direct it the right way to remind it how to behave the way it's meant to behave.
[00:30:36] Speaker B: Yes, I. I wholeheartedly believe that. I do. I was. I kind of chuckled to myself when you. When you said that, because I was thinking about the last time I was on one of my hike walks, you know.
[00:30:47] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:30:48] Speaker B: And. And for some reason, there was, like, this pain that I didn't know that I can have, like, in that particular area of my leg. And I'm talking to my leg, like, come on, you know, come on. Come on, you're okay. Come on. And. And. And it's funny, even down to things. And, you know, my automobile. And I. I joke with people, but I am so serious. It's like everything has a name. Everything has a name because when something malfunctions, just like we'll call our ear or our nose or elbow or our feet or our legs or our back, call it by its name. Speak to it.
Because when you hear again, power of life and death is in your tongue. You can speak life to a situation or you can kill it, good or bad. Sometimes killing a situation is good to get it out of your way. And then sometimes killing a situation can turn into negative words and word curses and negative things and kind of tones being said that will limit a person's growth. You have to know that you're worthy and that you're enough. You have to know, like you just said, all that we need is within us. A lot of times you just need that external coaching.
And that relationship with him is a lifetime of coaching. If you have that dialogue, not a monologue, that dialogue.
Because, and I've been saying this a lot lately, a lot of people are operating on the first marching order, the first set of instructions, and they have expired.
And you're wondering why you hit a plateau. You're wondering why you hit a ceiling. You're wondering why your body's reacting a certain way towards things that used to make it work smoothly.
You have to check back in with that relationship with our heavenly Father and get new instructions.
It's not that you did something wrong, is that he's trying to take you to a higher, different level. And you're not going to know that if you're having a monologue with yourself. You got to have that dialogue and that relationship so you can hear the next set of instructions.
So I commend you. I'm excited for you.
[00:32:54] Speaker D: Thank you. Yes, I'm excited.
[00:32:55] Speaker B: I'm so super excited. So listen. How. Tell me something or tell us as the listening audience.
What would be your one? I would say top advice for somebody that's possibly dealing with the effects of trauma, dysfunction, which a lot of times people normalize dysfunction, not knowing that it's a dysfunction.
What would be your top advice for someone dealing with. I would say suppressed or unrecognized or undiagnosed or un dealt with trauma and dysfunction?
[00:33:33] Speaker D: I would say that your body is not broken, it's sending you a message. And it's really important to realize that you cannot mentally talk your way out of a biological safety response.
So if your body is reacting to protect you because of something that happened in your past, this is where affirmations like people are like, oh, I've been trying to manifest that. It doesn't work for me. Well, sometimes it works for people because it's not. There's no block to it.
[00:34:04] Speaker B: Right.
[00:34:05] Speaker D: If your body has a biological block because of safety and there's a pathway that needs to be healed, that needs to be healed before we can talk our way out of it. So it's learning to listen to your body and understand what messages are trying to tell you.
[00:34:22] Speaker B: I totally agree. I totally agree. People are at different stages.
Yeah, you know, something minute.
But then there are times when you said pathways. My mind went on. Because I can go on and on on that subject. Sometimes it's not even directly the individual. It's something that's generational.
[00:34:41] Speaker D: Yes, yes.
[00:34:43] Speaker B: I'm gonna leave that right.
[00:34:44] Speaker D: All the time in my practice.
[00:34:45] Speaker B: There you go. Like I told you, I can dig in that. I can dig in that. So that I can dig it. I'm not going to dig in it. I can dig in that.
Because a lot of times you're trying to deal with what's in front of you and it's like, I've done everything that I know to do. Right. I have monologues, I have relationships, Something still off. Okay, we got to dig a little deeper. Yes, we got to dig a little deeper because some of those things, again, going back to what I said about the root, some of those things are generational and sometimes you got to go and unplug that portal, unclog it, you gotta unclog it there so that it flows freely, so that there no blockage, as you said, no blockages for your healing, your deliverance, your freedom in whatever area and whatever that looks like for you. So I totally agree with that. Now, last question. What would you tell your 14 year old self now, where you are now? What would you tell your 14 year old self?
[00:35:51] Speaker D: I've thought about this a lot and I think the one thing that I would say, and I know why I had, why I didn't, because where I'm at now, I wouldn't have learned the lessons that I had to learn to be able to do what I'm doing. But for anybody new or for myself, if I were to go back, I would say I matter just as much as those people I'm trying to protect. Because I knew it was a group trauma and, and there was one person that I trusted with my heart and soul that betrayed me, let me down. And when I woke up, I was given some alcohol and I woke up with five different individuals harming me. And I trusted one of those human beings and I knew if I said anything to anybody, he would go to jail and likely everybody else that was a part of it. And so I protected everybody but me all those years. And the thing is, is because my body processed my traumas physically, which is not very common, most of us will have severe anxiety or depression from something like that. But for me, my body, because of what happened at age 6, my brain said, oh, we can't feel emotions, we're going to process them somatically.
So I never felt the real pain of what I went through, which is why it made it easier not to say anything.
So I would say, go back and say, you know, remind myself that these are tied. Because I never thought that my, what was happening to me physically was tied to what I went through emotionally.
Right. So I would remind myself, yes, this actually is part of the trauma. I used to tell my girls I got away unscathed from some horrible traumas and I didn't get away unscathed.
[00:37:32] Speaker B: Right. You carried it.
[00:37:33] Speaker D: I carried it. And my body screamed at me for 34 years until I learned how to listen.
[00:37:39] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:37:40] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:37:41] Speaker B: Again, congratulations. I'm so proud of you.
[00:37:44] Speaker D: Thank you.
[00:37:44] Speaker B: I am so sincerely proud of you. That's not. That's not easy. No, I'm so thankful. It's not easy.
[00:37:51] Speaker D: But I'm just telling you know what? I'm on this side of it. I am so deeply grateful. Absolutely, Absolutely, so grateful.
[00:37:59] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. And you should be. I'm happy for you. I am. I love when women evolve.
[00:38:07] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:38:07] Speaker B: And sometimes it takes tragedy for us to get there, and then sometimes it takes a plateau or wall or a level of feeling stuck or confused for that moment. But, you know, we draw from each other.
We draw strength from each other. Especially when you want one accord. Especially when, you know, nobody's there trying to demean the other, but we're there to lift each other up. It's been such a pleasure having you here. How can people get in contact with you if they want to talk to you?
[00:38:37] Speaker D: They can find me at the underlying answers.com so, you know, that's the best way that my website, the underlying answers.com or Cindy Cosley for any of my social sites.
[00:38:47] Speaker B: Okay. That is work that works. I will definitely put that information down in the description. In the meantime, I have thoroughly enjoyed myself. Thank you. Thank you so much for being here.
[00:39:00] Speaker D: Thank you, Cindy. Thank you for having me. It's really been.
[00:39:03] Speaker B: You're well.
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